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Patricia, July 16, 2008:

Dear Gary,

Honestly, what happens to me is that I don’t get to believe these things.

“Scientific explanations” of this sort are never clear enough, they give so many things for granted that I have a hard time believe the whole thing.

This doesn’t mean that I don’t agree with the general principle of creating life with our thoughts and words and modifying our surrounding world with the energy we emanate. That I do believe.

However, his sentence of “the whole universe is created by sound” sounds to me too naive.

Also, I would really like some of this “scientifc proven things” to be explained with more detail. I would like to know which measure instruments they use to be able to see these particles, for example. And certainly I would like the experiment to be filmed, so I can see it.

Don’t you wonder how did that Japanese man photograph those water particles in that minimum level so as to see those beautiful or ugly shapes? He probably did it and well, but I would need to see the experiment to completely believe it.

Probably they do know what they are talking about and they are 100% right but to get my mind’s acceptance, I need a better explanation.


Gary, July 16, 2008:

Hi Patricia,

I hear what you’re saying. There will always be evidence to support both sides. If we look at the Law of Attraction… there are those who believe it and those who don’t.

Those who don’t believe it attract evidence to support their belief.

Those who do believe it attract evidence to support their belief.

The same can be applied to everything. Scientists are constantly arguing over what’s what and what’s not. Evidence can be found to back both arguments depending on what the observers opinion is.

For me, I can tell whether something is right for me by following my feelings. Deep down inside I know whether something is right or not. That’s how I base my judgments.

When I heard David mention that sound creates everything, I personally did feel that the word “sound” was the correct terminology for me. However “vibration” would have been more fitting. The terminology isn’t important though.

The same goes for when people say “thoughts create your reality”. From a feeling perspective, I understand the meaning, yet the terminology is incorrect for me, since I feel its what you vibrate that creates.

Enjoy your day!
Gary


Lyman Reed, July 16, 2008:

Thanks for posting this video, Gary.

And great points by both you, Patricia, and you, Gary. I still tend to be a skeptic, and when I hear “scientifically proven” it really gets that side of me going. :)

Sometimes it *is* just the terminology that gets in the way. A great example from my own thought processes: while I know what Abraham-Hicks (and you, Gary) mean when you say “The most important thing is that I feel good”, I need to add “as long as what I’m doing to feel good won’t destroy me.” A person who likes his drink more than others (like me) needs to do that.

Don’t get me wrong, Gary… I know what you mean, I just need to add that for myself.

Anyway, just my two cents. Love it when comments go beyond “Hey, great video!”

Which, by the way, it was. :)


Great videos and Great Conversation!

Like Gary - I too felt the terminology that sound creates everything - does not work for me… When David said this - I felt the terminology is — Energy - The Vibration of Energy is what creates.

I believe what we call sound - is energy vibrating and our perception of that vibrating energy is sound…


Dean Shainin, July 17, 2008:

Hi Gary,

Well, here goes something interesting from a very ‘old writing’ I stumbled upon when a book leaped off the book self and landed upon my feet while trying to search for the meaning of LIFE. It was about a decade ago. lol

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

“This phrase (John 1:1) is as good as any to introduce this figure, for it refers to a sound, a vibration, a word, which, when uttered, starts the entire Cosmos vibrating and initiates the beginning of all that is. Before the Word was uttered there was only silence, and all was null and void. But after the Word was uttered there if life, action, vibration, motion. But St. John tells us that this sound or initial vibration is dual; for the Word was not only with God, but it also was God. Therefor we not only have the Creator (God), but we also have that which was created (Image), through the numerical vibrations contained within the letters of its individual “Name”.”

I never really knew what this meant until now with these posts I’ve just read :-)

I Thank You Gary and everyone else that shared their thoughts here that got me to remember this from so long ago.

Simply amazing…

Peace, Love and Light
Dean


Gary, July 17, 2008:

Wow great stuff guys!

Thanks Lymann, I’m glad you’re able to adapt that Abe statement too. I clearly see where you’re coming from and feel that your addition is definitely a welcomed one. It depends in which context its taken from too.

Cheers Ellie - One question that popped into my mind when I heard David mention sound creates was “where does the source of the sound originate from?”. When using the terminology that you suggest, it makes more sense to me because energy cannot be created nor can it be destroyed… there is no singular source of the energy, its everywhere and everything.

Dean - Thank you VERY much for sharing that passage! It makes sense to me too.

For some reason the word “god” doesn’t resonate with me at all. I think its because I get an image of a bearded man in the sky whereas source energy or creator doesn’t have that association for me.

Enjoy the rest of your week!
Gary


Patricia, July 17, 2008:

Wow, it is GREAT talking with you, guys, in this awesome way.

I love it when we can share ideas and all of us grow with what each of us say!

You helped me see that terminology was the key for my “dissonance” and that terminology is not the important issue here.

Thanks Lyman for the company in the skepticism and I seriously tell you all that I loved your explanations and comments and the respectful conversation we had here!

Gary, I got your point very well. Thank you very much for having organized my ideas much better, and most importantly, for reassuring that a positive point of view is the key thing.

Much love to all of you,
Patricia


Terry, July 18, 2008:

Patricia’s comment about not being able to believe without substantive scientific support is very common. I too used to go down this road until I started learning about myself and psychology. From a psychological stand point the desire for evidence is a bit of a red herring. At a deeper level it is your controller (subconscious/ego/whatever label you wish to use) using a very cunning ploy to avoid change. If you want scientific proof, it’s out there, masses of detailed experiments and their data, why don’t you go and get it yourself, then you will know and be able to make more informed choices on the subject. What excuses come into your mind to avoid doing this research? Whatever they are they are but excuses being put by your controller, we all follow similar paths to avoid change. If you accept that humans are only in conscious control of their thoughts and actions for between 2 – 5% of their waking hours and the rest of the time are on autopilot (your controller)[yes more research by you needed to confirm this is so!] then other potentials and possibilities may enter your reality.

David Icke refers to sound being the creator. I think it’s easier to relate to everything as vibrating energy. Scientist believe that our universe comprises about 5% matter and 95% not matter. i.e. The manifest and the unmanifest.(accept it or check it out yourself).

My own belief is that our interaction with the unmanifest side is through our thoughts and feelings. These are the unmanifest within us – yes we can look into the unmanifest side of things. What I believe happens is that like or similar energy clumps together (Law of Attraction) until such times it becomes big enough for us to notice i.e. It becomes part of our manifest world. The more energy vibrating at the same resonance then the greater the clump of energy produced – hey presto we have manifestation.

This is a very simplistic response but it gets energy vibrating. If you unconditionally love everything in your life then yours is a loving reality. Have fun with as many people as possible including yourself
Terry


Patricia, July 18, 2008:

Dear Terry,

Thank you for your thoughtful collaboration to fighting my skepticism!!!! I really appreciate it!

All the best,
Patricia


Gary, July 20, 2008:

Thanks for starting a wonderful discussion, Patricia.

And thank you, Terry, for your great insights.

Gary


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